Backup plugin doesn't work well?
Backup plugin doesn't work well?
The backup plugin doesn't seem to work well on my Ubuntu 6.0.6.1 server.
I have made a webbackup dir outside my webroot (/var/webbackup) and I have made sure that apache has read/write access to it.
However, when I execute a full SQL backup by using the Start Backup button, I get an 404 error; when I check the backup dir I see that it did make a backup however the backup is in a directory called /var/webbackup/tmp/last_backup.
Another thing is, that even though I have the plugin set to delete sql backups older than 2 days, it leaves all of the backups in the /tmp dir.
Furthermore it seems that the auto bakcup function does not work at all: I only have backups from the ones that I initiated manually (both SQL and HTML).
And, to top things off: the backup interface is supposed to show the last backed up file, which it does, but it doesn't display the file size and it shows a file date of 01-01-1970 01:00. During the backup process however, it does show the right date and filesize (it's growing untill the backup is finished).
I really like the idea of the plugin (saves me from makin a cronjob or something), but if it doesn't work as expected it is not usefull at all.
Anyone have an idea what is going wrong?
I see the plugin works with a .sh script but that script is ancient (2005) and unfortunately I have no knowlegde to change/debug it myself.
Anyone have an idea how to fix my problems?
I have made a webbackup dir outside my webroot (/var/webbackup) and I have made sure that apache has read/write access to it.
However, when I execute a full SQL backup by using the Start Backup button, I get an 404 error; when I check the backup dir I see that it did make a backup however the backup is in a directory called /var/webbackup/tmp/last_backup.
Another thing is, that even though I have the plugin set to delete sql backups older than 2 days, it leaves all of the backups in the /tmp dir.
Furthermore it seems that the auto bakcup function does not work at all: I only have backups from the ones that I initiated manually (both SQL and HTML).
And, to top things off: the backup interface is supposed to show the last backed up file, which it does, but it doesn't display the file size and it shows a file date of 01-01-1970 01:00. During the backup process however, it does show the right date and filesize (it's growing untill the backup is finished).
I really like the idea of the plugin (saves me from makin a cronjob or something), but if it doesn't work as expected it is not usefull at all.
Anyone have an idea what is going wrong?
I see the plugin works with a .sh script but that script is ancient (2005) and unfortunately I have no knowlegde to change/debug it myself.
Anyone have an idea how to fix my problems?
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Re: Backup plugin doesn't work well?
Hi!
It's a problematic plugin because it needs access to files and the SQL database and can quickly create too large data, timeouts etc.
I really suggest to use FTP-based and phpMyAdmin based backups...
I do agree that the backup plugin would need some improvements to generally work better, but I myself don't have time to dig into that huge plugin...sadly the original developer dropped dead as well. Any takers?
Best regards,
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To be precise, the backup plugin doesn'T seem to work well at all.hgoor wrote:The backup plugin doesn't seem to work well on my Ubuntu 6.0.6.1 server.
It's a problematic plugin because it needs access to files and the SQL database and can quickly create too large data, timeouts etc.
I really suggest to use FTP-based and phpMyAdmin based backups...
I do agree that the backup plugin would need some improvements to generally work better, but I myself don't have time to dig into that huge plugin...sadly the original developer dropped dead as well. Any takers?
Best regards,
Garvin
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Re: Backup plugin doesn't work well?
Uhm, well if these are known issues and the plugin is no longer supported I think S9y should remove it from Spartacus then!
Why continue having unsupported stuff anyway? I think it's not a very good idea because it's not in the interest of users (like me)?
Any Linux guru's around that could help me out in making an automatic sql dump and tar.gzip backup thingy for my whole website?
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Any Linux guru's around that could help me out in making an automatic sql dump and tar.gzip backup thingy for my whole website?
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Re: Backup plugin doesn't work well?
Please do not so! For me it works very well. I am sad that is does not work for you, but it should not be removed, im my opinion.hgoor wrote:Uhm, well if these are known issues and the plugin is no longer supported I think S9y should remove it from Spartacus then!
Perhaps another idea: "unsupported" or unmaintained plugins could be marked as "unsupported", so every user can decide if he wants to use it.
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You're right that would probably be a better idea: but what linux distro do you use?stm999999999 wrote:Please do not so! For me it works very well. I am sad that is does not work for you, but it should not be removed, im my opinion.hgoor wrote:Uhm, well if these are known issues and the plugin is no longer supported I think S9y should remove it from Spartacus then!
Perhaps another idea: "unsupported" or unmaintained plugins could be marked as "unsupported", so every user can decide if he wants to use it.
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Where and how do you host your blog?RJH wrote:I am now having a problem also with this plugin. It worked just fine for several months then one day it just quit. I have uninstalled and reinstalled and it still doesnt work. Any further info from anyone or suggestions as to a manual backup method would be appreciated.
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Its hosted on a linux server with GoDaddy.com.hgoor wrote:Where and how do you host your blog?RJH wrote:I am now having a problem also with this plugin. It worked just fine for several months then one day it just quit. I have uninstalled and reinstalled and it still doesnt work. Any further info from anyone or suggestions as to a manual backup method would be appreciated.
http://www.thatpoliticalblog.com
Do you have FTP and or SSH access? If so you can use a combination of backing up files by FTP and making a SQL dump.RJH wrote:Its hosted on a linux server with GoDaddy.com.hgoor wrote:Where and how do you host your blog?RJH wrote:I am now having a problem also with this plugin. It worked just fine for several months then one day it just quit. I have uninstalled and reinstalled and it still doesnt work. Any further info from anyone or suggestions as to a manual backup method would be appreciated.
http://www.thatpoliticalblog.com
When I set up my own server using Ubuntu Linux that whole thing stopped working too for me.
I think S9y should make a decision and pull the unsupported plugins!
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Yes I have FTP access and use it constantly. I didnt think about just downloading my entire "\serendipity" directory like I do before I do an upgrade, DOH! it wouldnt be as easy as the automated plugin but still a satisfactory backup procedure.hgoor wrote:Do you have FTP and or SSH access? If so you can use a combination of backing up files by FTP and making a SQL dump.RJH wrote:Its hosted on a linux server with GoDaddy.com.hgoor wrote: Where and how do you host your blog?
http://www.thatpoliticalblog.com
When I set up my own server using Ubuntu Linux that whole thing stopped working too for me.
I think S9y should make a decision and pull the unsupported plugins!
I saw other posts about this plugin not working and it not being supported and think there should be a mention of issues and no support in its Spartacus listing.
Besides the downloading the directory you REALLY need a MySQl dump of the database as well!RJH wrote:[Yes I have FTP access and use it constantly. I didnt think about just downloading my entire "\serendipity" directory like I do before I do an upgrade, DOH! it wouldnt be as easy as the automated plugin but still a satisfactory backup procedure.
I saw other posts about this plugin not working and it not being supported and think there should be a mention of issues and no support in its Spartacus listing.
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I am not familiar with how to do that....hgoor wrote:Besides the downloading the directory you REALLY need a MySQl dump of the database as well!RJH wrote:Yes I have FTP access and use it constantly. I didnt think about just downloading my entire "\serendipity" directory like I do before I do an upgrade, DOH! it wouldnt be as easy as the automated plugin but still a satisfactory backup procedure.hgoor wrote: Do you have FTP and or SSH access? If so you can use a combination of backing up files by FTP and making a SQL dump.
When I set up my own server using Ubuntu Linux that whole thing stopped working too for me.
I think S9y should make a decision and pull the unsupported plugins!
I saw other posts about this plugin not working and it not being supported and think there should be a mention of issues and no support in its Spartacus listing.
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I am not familiar with how to do that....[/quote]
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/backup.html
I am not familiar with how to do that....[/quote]
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/backup.html
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Im an MCSE and a network admin and all those instructions on how to do it might as well be in Greek, lol. The database is also on another server that I do not have access to. I will contact tech support at GoDaddy.com and see what options they have. They are very helpful people in my past dealings with them. Plus I am much more worried about the html & php portions of the site going TU rather than the database. Thanks for you very helpful input!hgoor wrote:[