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Working of 'hide content in RSS'
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 4:15 pm
by Zirbelholz
This must be a simple question, but I can't find the answer in the user documentation or by searching.
If I correct an entry and click on 'hide content in rss', will that entry disappear from rss? I mean, if I post an entry today, it will be at the top of people's rss feeds for a few days at least. If I alter it later and don't want the reposting to be shown, can I click 'hide', or does that have the effect of removing the entry altogether?
The reason I ask is because I was revising ancient entries and they were all showing up in the feed. I will therefore stop showing them. But then I began to wonder about the very recent entries.
TIA
Margaret
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 4:46 pm
by carl_galloway
What you're talking about is an intentional feature of RSS. Basically the feed is supposed to show new AND updated entries so that your readers can keep themselves informed of latest happenings on your blog. It actually defeats the purpose of RSS to restrict what goes into it.
Having said that, I agree with you the blog owners need more control over their feed, after all a blog is the ultimate form of free speech and democracy and not having that control actually restricts our rights. Just my 3cents.
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:11 pm
by Zirbelholz
Carl,
The problem is really the 2,500 old entries. I got an urgent warning from a reader after 20 had appeared, all out of date!
So what is the answer to my question? If I block a reposting in the feed because it was just a spelling mistake (as opposed to an addition or alteration), does the post get removed from the feed altogether?
I know it's old blogging procedure to admit to every spelling mistake by showing the original crossed through, but I don't want that for my blog. Errors of content pointed out in comments are a different matter.
Margaret
Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 10:03 am
by garvinhicking
Hi!
In your case: go to your s9y configuration screen and set the option "Strict RFC2616 RSS-Feed compatibility" to true. This will prevent updated articles to show up again in your RSS feed.
Regards,
Garvin
Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 10:09 am
by carl_galloway
Holycarp, is that what that does? Why didn't I discover this two years ago?

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 10:18 am
by Zirbelholz
Thanks very much, Garvin.
I don't usually worry too much about this, but my feed always appears at
www.jurablogs.com and that's why I notice it.
Margaret
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 8:29 pm
by Zirbelholz
I'm now getting a complaint from
www.jurablogs.com that my last three entries appeared only as headers, without any text.
All I did was post once with content in RSS, then a slightly corrected version with 'hide content in RSS'.
Does the latter mean that the *header* appears without content? I was wanting nothing to appear.
TIA
Margaret
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:04 am
by garvinhicking
Hi!
Yes, hide content means "hide content (BODY)", not "hide entry from RSS".
You cannot hide entries from RSS feeds, that would defeat the reason of having RSS-feeds
Regards,
Garvin
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:34 am
by Zirbelholz
Does this mean that if a person receives my feed, every single entry from the past four years that I republish (I am adding categories and correcting blockquotes) appears in the feed, maybe only as a header if I block the content?
If that is the case, I will just have to cancel the feed for a while, or at least post an entry explaining the problem.
I already had one comment on this some time ago, and since then I've been blocking the body.
www.jurablogs.com only shows the latest entries, entries by date, so that's no problem for the old entries.
Margaret
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:24 pm
by garvinhicking
Hi!
No, a feed only contains the recent 15 entries. (Plus entries you've recently updated, unless you enabled that RFC2616-setting I spoke about)
Regards,
Garvin
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:41 pm
by Zirbelholz
Ah, that's good. But that was exactly the problem - what do you mean by RFC2616? Where did you mention it?
I have simply been clicking on the option to keep the content out of the feed, and by content I thought it meant the whole thing. If it had said 'message body', I would have understood it.
Margaret
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:52 pm
by garvinhicking
Hi!
I mentioned it here in this thread:
http://board.s9y.org/viewtopic.php?p=65361#65361
I have simply been clicking on the option to keep the content out of the feed, and by content I thought it meant the whole thing. If it had said 'message body', I would have understood it.
What this option inflicts detailed will be covered in my upcoming Book about Serendipity...
Best regards,
Garvin
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:57 pm
by Zirbelholz
Oh dear. I remember that thread well, but I obviously skipped over the important detail. Thanks.
I had better stop asking questions, so you can get on with the book!
Margaret
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 2:52 pm
by Don Chambers
Zirbelholz wrote:Oh dear. I remember that thread well, but I obviously skipped over the important detail. Thanks.
I had better stop asking questions, so you can get on with the book!
Margaret
DON'T stop asking questions!!! Where do you think he gets subject matter for the book from?

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 2:53 pm
by garvinhicking
Hi!
DON'T stop asking questions!!! Where do you think he gets subject matter for the book from?

Exactly. However, in this case, I've already documented that about 2 months ago, so it was something I was already aware of specifying.
But the more ground covered here that I need to move into the book, the better.
Regards,
Garvin