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Scrapinette wrote:

stm999999999 wrote: But it should work in that way, that inserting a new URL at editing an existent entry, makes a new trackback.

Yes in fact, it would be an improvement.

Äh, when I say "should" I mean, s9y will do so and so it should be work for you, too.

Hi !

garvinhicking wrote:

But this time this is the trackback URL and not the "normal" URL that I have to enter in this field. Right ?

Exactly! There you need to enter the URL that on the target pages tell you what the trackback URL is.

I'm sorry to come back on this point but I still have a problem with trackbacks. This morning I decided to create a new entry with 9 trackbacks making sense. I wrote the post including the normal post URLs (permalinks) and I copied the trackbacks URLs of the related posts in the Trackback-Control field as discussed earlier to ensure that remote blogs will get trackbacks. When I published the entry (http://www.scrapinette.com/blog-scrapbo ... scrap.html) all remote blogs have been pinged and all trackbacks failed

I feel confused... 9 over 9 trackbacks failures sound to me a lot ! How can I check that the problem is not on my side ? What message (if any) would I get if trackbacks are moderated on the remote blogs ?

Thank you in advance for your inputs !

By the way, up to now, I always copied in the Trackback-Control field whole trackback link (including http://). Should I remove it like for other ping URLs ?

Hi!

What failure message exactly did you get? Which were the URLs?

Nowadays mans blogs disable trackbacks...?

Regards,
Garvin

garvinhicking wrote: What failure message exactly did you get? Which were the URLs?

Vérifie http://scrapouille.spaces.live.com/blog ... #trackback pour des rétroliens éventuels...
• Rétrolien échoué: Pas de rétrolien trouvé.

which means :

Check http://scrapouille.spaces.live.com/blog ... #trackback for possible trackbacks
• backtrack failed: No backtrack found.

Please find below the lists of trackbacks failing that way :
http://scrapouille.spaces.live.com/blog ... #trackback
http://scrapatou.canalblog.com/archives ... trackbacks
http://scrapatou.canalblog.com/archives ... trackbacks
http://scrapatou.canalblog.com/archives ... trackbacks
http://vavascrap.canalblog.com/archives ... trackbacks
http://scrapissia.canalblog.com/archive ... trackbacks
http://blogtortues2005.canalblog.com/ar ... trackbacks
http://scrapuleusement.canalblog.com/ar ... trackbacks
http://admin.over-blog.com/trackback.php?Id=4851649

I copied it in the Trackback-control field as such.

garvinhicking wrote: Nowadays mans blogs disable trackbacks...?

Well, I've seen a number of blogs that even don't propose any trackback URLs for posts... Can trackback URLs be copied on the remote blog if trackbacks are disabled ?

Thanks for your help. I really wonder if there is something wrong with my blog (or what I do !) or if I just have no luck up to now...

Hi!

On this page it says the trackback URL is this:

http://scrapouille.spaces.live.com/blog ... A!936.trak

I didn't find that URL in your list, but this is the one you need to enter in the list of additional trackbacks.

Well, I've seen a number of blogs that even don't propose any trackback URLs for posts... Can trackback URLs be copied on the remote blog if trackbacks are disabled ?

If a blog does not give you a trackback URL, they usually don't support trackbacks. Trackbacks need to be supported by both the sending AND the receiving blog!

HTH,
Garvin

Hi !

garvinhicking wrote: On this page it says the trackback URL is this:
http://scrapouille.spaces.live.com/blog ... A!936.trak

I didn't find that URL in your list, but this is the one you need to enter in the list of additional trackbacks.

Thanks ! You helped to identify the wrong thing I did... Trackback URLs cannot be copied by a right click on the trackback link at the end of the post but by clicking on this link and then copying the given URL.

So I tried with all posts to which I want to send a trackback. All failed again but this time messages are different : "Access denied", "Trackback not allowed" or "Target address contains no data".

Well a bit clearer... Apparently, it works but I have no luck !

All these blogs use canalblog or over-blog...

garvinhicking wrote: If a blog does not give you a trackback URL, they usually don't support trackbacks. Trackbacks need to be supported by both the sending AND the receiving blog!

But apparently, even if a trackback URL is given this doesn't mean that the receiving blog accepts trackbacks ! Is there a mean to know if trackbacks are accepted by a blog before trying to send then ?

Many thanks for your help ! I really begin to understand howe it works !

Hello,

I have been following this post so that I can understand the function of Trackbacks.

You say that you need a Trackback plugin. I have searched the plugins and the only plugin referencing trackbacks is the Trackback-Control Plugin. Is this the plugin you are referring to?

If so, I am unsure about most of the fields this plugin refers to in the Options:

Proxy Host
Proxy Port
Proxy User
Proxy Password

Can you tell me how these are meant to be filled in?

Thank you.

Hi!

I have been following this post so that I can understand the function of Trackbacks.

Did you also read this on our site:

http://www.s9y.org/48.html

It explains how trackbacks work a bit more in depth.

You basically need to plugin to send or receive a trackback when using Serendipity. However the blog you send a trackback to needs to also support the Trackback API. The plugin I mentioned is just there to send manual trackbacks to blogs that do not fully implement the Trackback API and forget to add RDF-metadata to their blog output.

The Proxy-Options are optional, if your webserver does not require a proxy to send requests, you can simply ignore it.

HTH,
Garvin