Working on 2.0: Developer sprint

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onli wrote:If someone wants to help develop, we have some areas I would happily give someone to work on (new JS-hook for plugins, remove no-smarty-fallbacks from the core, UTF-8 the translation) or help implement ideas you yourself have.
Also: replacing inline on* handlers. Man, there are still a lot of those little buggers in there …

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I'd like to invite to a next devtalk!

The smartification is done, everywhere it matters. We did a lot in the backend and are starting to tackle the next set of bigger changes.

I'd like to do two things:
1. (Let YL) Present the current version of the new admin backend interface and talk about what is needed next for that.
2. Create an opportunity to talk about the linked and additional bigger changes to the core

No bigger target, just to either wrap things up or add to the discussion.

The plan is to make it happen next weekend or the weekend after that, if that is too soon or the timeslots are wrong, please write here. Else the doodle: http://www.doodle.com/vatu2da5miqmvxqs
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I don't remember – did we use Garvin's Mumble for this the last time or the InfoCamp Mumble? We should probably agree on one so nobody gets lost. :wink:

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Given the current state of the Doodle, I guess we'll take Saturday, the 20th? Should we say 15:00 then, on Garvin's Mumble server? Or is 17:00 better for everyone?

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Guys - I will try to participate, although I am very far out of "the loop".
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Hi!

15:00 would be fine for me.
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Re: Working on 2.0: Developer sprint

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For me too.

As far as I remember, we used Garvins Mumble. Is that still an option?
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Hi!

My mumble is open, yes :)
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I'll try to be there, too.
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Great. This is really (for me at least, although it shouldn't be limited to that) about getting some feedback and impressions from people who haven't worked on it for some … months, I guess. Anybody who finds the time should be welcome to join us, although I realize 15:00 CEST is kind of brutal in Don's timezone …

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Ok. The date seems to be: Saturday, 15 pm CET, Garvins Mumble. Cozy 4 to 5 People.
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***SATURDAY*** not Sunday!
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Right! Thx. I really mixed that up.
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Just to confirm (and to keep a tradition going): I'll be there and I'll try to not fall asleep again. :)

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Re: Working on 2.0: Developer sprint

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Ok. In short what happened:

1. YL showed Garvin the new backend. He liked it -> we will proceed.YL got much needed input about detail questions.
2. The next step will be to make some tests with users.
3. We realized that there is a conflict between our two aims to 1. relase the new backend as fast as possible and 2. to implement new featues like a db-layer. Kind of an answer was to try to do 1 regardless of the new features, while developing them in feature-branches and merging when possible without real breakage, which I think should be possible.
4. Mattsches suggested that Unit-Tests could help with that (I agree)
5. In the end, we had a short talk how to notify YL or me about bugs and where our TODO-list is (on paper so far in my case), so we spontaneously decided to use githubs issue tracker with labels for that. See http://board.s9y.org/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=19451

Please add if I forgot something.
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