[1.7][2.0] 2k11 – standard, default or what else?

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Re: [1.7][2.0] 2k11 – standard, default or what else?

Post by yellowled » Wed Dec 26, 2012 1:53 pm

garvinhicking wrote:I'm up for discussion on this, but personally I would prefer to make 2k11 the new template in 2.0 only
We could do that as well. That way, I would develop 2k11 in 2.0 (i.e. implement and test new features, if any should come up) and have a stable version in master (which would only get necessary updates). Fine by me.

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Re: [1.7][2.0] 2k11 – standard, default or what else?

Post by Timbalu » Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:07 pm

garvinhicking wrote:I'm up for discussion on this, but personally I would prefer to make 2k11 the new template in 2.0 only, mostly to have a 1.7 version that runs as stable as possible while we introduce possible errors in 2.0; since 2.0 might be in a whacky state for some time, I wouldn't like to have another Baustelle in 1.7 as well. Even though I fully trust that 2k11 is ready for primetime I think it might raise support issues and other trivial problems that could divert our attention...
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What kind of problems do you have in mind, Garvin? Well, apart from the need to take over the bulletproof/admin backend (else it would fall back to old default/admin), it has nearly no influence to break something, IMHO. If someone has stuck with bulletproof as the default template in the past, that would not change if 1.7 arrives with a new defaultTemplate set, would it? That would only happen to new installations, or am I wrong with that?
I expect changing 1.7 to 2k11 now as a good idea, since the Smarty3 upgrade has influences to the frontend also, while draft 2.0 modifications are backend only as of now. "Raising support issues and other trivial problems" is daily business in my eyes.
And... to come up in 2013/14 with a new template from 2011, is quite "debianesque". ;-)
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Re: [1.7][2.0] 2k11 – standard, default or what else?

Post by yellowled » Fri Dec 28, 2012 7:36 pm

Timbalu wrote:If someone has stuck with bulletproof as the default template in the past, that would not change if 1.7 arrives with a new defaultTemplate set, would it?
JFTR: Standard template, not default (as in fallback). Serendipity v2.3 would remain the default template.

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Re: [1.7][2.0] 2k11 – standard, default or what else?

Post by Timbalu » Fri Dec 28, 2012 7:57 pm

yellowled wrote:
Timbalu wrote:If someone has stuck with bulletproof as the default template in the past, that would not change if 1.7 arrives with a new defaultTemplate set, would it?
JFTR: Standard template, not default (as in fallback). Serendipity v2.3 would remain the default template.
To clearify that again... ;-) Thank you! I was talking about serendipity_config.inc.php which has the $serendipity['defaultTemplate'] = 'bulletproof'; variable, which is the old setting since "I don't know"! This would change to 2k11 and apply (only?) to new installations without any preset Template. (?) The backend would then to move from Bulletproof to the new one, as the backend in fallback templates/default/admin is even older.
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Re: [1.7][2.0] 2k11 – standard, default or what else?

Post by yellowled » Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:24 pm

Timbalu wrote:This would change to 2k11 and apply (only?) to new installations without any preset Template. (?)
At some point, we should really discuss whether the current template mechanism is still a good idea. I realize it's always going to be a matter of backwards compatibility, but I'm not sure the whole “fall back to BP, then fall back to v2.3” is still appropriate for the modern web.

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Re: [1.7][2.0] 2k11 – standard, default or what else?

Post by onli » Thu May 30, 2013 11:06 pm

I just promoted 2k11 to be the new default-template: https://github.com/s9y/Serendipity/comm ... cda6175b03

In the current state, default still remains as fallback.

I hope that his change will make it easier for all of us to test 2k11 in the backend, and will also enable us to test the installer with 2k11 as template as early as possible.

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