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fresh install - plugins active

Post by Timbalu » Sat Jan 25, 2014 1:41 pm

Whow I never noticed that before :shock:
:!: On fresh installs the spamblock Plugin is not activated by default. Is that really true?

I know I have to activate Spartacus manually for certain reasons, but I never noticed to have done that to spamblock before... at least I can't remember.
I always anticipated this being delivered actively! (Which I still think this is a good idea!)
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Re: fresh install - plugins active

Post by yellowled » Sat Jan 25, 2014 3:15 pm

Timbalu wrote:I always anticipated this being delivered actively! (Which I still think this a good idea!)
onli can probably explain better why, but we're going to have to discuss the active plugins for 2.0 anyway. I don't think this is a matter which needs to be addressed before that since we haven't had any user complaints about it as far as I can remember.

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Re: fresh install - plugins active

Post by Timbalu » Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:09 pm

The thing is, I have done that so fucking often :) and even yesterday a live one - and I NEVER GO OUT W/O spamblock - that I must have gotten so used to install this on the fly, that I never noticed it as a unusual behaviour until today. Tztzztzz. This is what really confused and surprised me! :mrgreen:
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Post by yellowled » Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:30 pm

Timbalu wrote:I must have gotten so used to install this on the fly, that I never noticed it as a unusual behaviour until today.
I know that feeling. It's what I do with NL2BR, just that I uninstall it first thing. :wink:

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Re: fresh install - plugins active

Post by Timbalu » Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:24 pm

yellowled wrote:I know that feeling. It's what I do with NL2BR, just that I uninstall it first thing.
Just as a note to all your followers:
Only do this when using textile or markdown for all userdata entry fields instead!

SCNR :wink:

PS. But you can confirm this spamblock install behaviour?!
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Re: fresh install - plugins active

Post by Timbalu » Sat Jan 25, 2014 7:12 pm

You know what?!:
  • Installing Spartacus activates the Spamblock plugin silently! 8)
This is why I didn't remember doing this manually far more often.... Isn't that strange...?!

All of this may have hit me, while I looked into the new event install list. There the spamblock plugin was marked as not activated (though I do not remember to have looked into the draggable list) and the database *_plugins table didn't hold it either. So my question remains, if spamblock comes activated or not or maybe is just not being shown as activated by a "bug"...?
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Post by yellowled » Sat Jan 25, 2014 9:20 pm

Timbalu wrote:
  • Installing Spartacus activates the Spamblock plugin silently! 8)
This is why I didn't remember doing this manually far more often.... Isn't that strange...?!
I have to admit I haven't done a fresh install of 1.7.x in quite a while, so I have no idea if that's the case. I can not remember Spamblock being installed, but not activated – “not activated” would mean it being in the “inactive” column, right? I can't remember ever seeing that.

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Re: fresh install - plugins active

Post by onli » Sun Jan 26, 2014 11:30 am

Normally, on install, the spamblock-install plugin should be installed. This is defined in https://github.com/s9y/Serendipity/blob ... nc.php#L94. If that didn't work there might be a bug.

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Re: fresh install - plugins active

Post by Timbalu » Sun Jan 26, 2014 1:06 pm

Right! That receipts my gut!
Very Strange. For the moment I just have no time to inspect this in deep...
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Post by garvinhicking » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:33 pm

Timbalu wrote:Right! That receipts my gut!
Very Strange. For the moment I just have no time to inspect this in deep...
So other default event plugins do get installed, just that one not?

The default plugins in 1.7 are:

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    /* Register default sidebar plugins, order matters */
        serendipity_plugin_api::create_plugin_instance('@serendipity_calendar_plugin');
        serendipity_plugin_api::create_plugin_instance('@serendipity_quicksearch_plugin');
        serendipity_plugin_api::create_plugin_instance('@serendipity_archives_plugin');
        serendipity_plugin_api::create_plugin_instance('@serendipity_categories_plugin');
        serendipity_plugin_api::create_plugin_instance('@serendipity_syndication_plugin');
        serendipity_plugin_api::create_plugin_instance('@serendipity_superuser_plugin');
        serendipity_plugin_api::create_plugin_instance('@serendipity_plug_plugin');

        /* Register default event plugins */
        serendipity_plugin_api::create_plugin_instance('serendipity_event_s9ymarkup', null, 'event');
        serendipity_plugin_api::create_plugin_instance('serendipity_event_emoticate', null, 'event');
        serendipity_plugin_api::create_plugin_instance('serendipity_event_nl2br', null, 'event');
        serendipity_plugin_api::create_plugin_instance('serendipity_event_spamblock', null, 'event');
So either NONE of these plugins should work, or all of them. I don't think only one of them wouldn't work...
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Re: fresh install - plugins active

Post by Timbalu » Mon Jan 27, 2014 8:14 pm

Yes, that what the linked page already posted says too. And you have to trust me, I wouldn't have posted this without having had this experience. Since I did not expect something like that to happen, I did not have an extra eye on installed plugins etc in special! To answer your questions it would need me to do that all again... That is where time hits me for the moment. But I think it was all ok with all the others.
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